{"id":4081,"date":"2023-05-12T10:15:38","date_gmt":"2023-05-12T14:15:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/scalemodelguy.com\/?page_id=4081"},"modified":"2025-06-22T11:36:35","modified_gmt":"2025-06-22T15:36:35","slug":"elegoo-saturn-french-battleship-charles-martel-in-1-200-scale","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/scalemodelguy.com\/index.php\/elegoo-saturn-french-battleship-charles-martel-in-1-200-scale\/","title":{"rendered":"Elegoo Saturn, French Battleship Charles Martel in 1\/200 scale"},"content":{"rendered":"\n
Oct 29, 2022
Challenge Accepted<\/h5>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019m a sucker for late 1800\u2019s French pre-dreadnoughts, they just look so darn cool with their tumble-home hulls and elaborate tophamper. For me, no ship exemplifies this period of French warship design better than the Charles Martel<\/a>, she screams “STEAM PUNK!!” yet has an elegance about her, Steam Punk chic if you will.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started this bytes to battleship project well over a year ago after stumbling onto photos of Charles Martel, I immediately knew I wanted one. After a brief search, I realized there were no detailed STLs of her to be had. What to do?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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I was just getting dangerous at Blender and wanted a challenging \u201cfrom scratch\u201d project to sink my new 3D design fangs into. Charles Martel fit the bill nicely, becoming by far my most ambitious Blender project yet. The design took just over a year of my \u201cfree time\u201d. It was definitely a heavy lift for me, not only because of the incredible amount of detail needed to suit a 1\/200 scale model, this was also my first Blender effort where I really got into using textures. While doing so, I happily found a fairly painless technique for switching between Charles Martel\u2019s three major paint schemes: gold\/white\/black, light gray\/black and battleship gray. The lack of good pictures created yet another challenge. They were hard to come by and when I did find one, it often caused me to rework large areas I had previously needed to guessed at. I could have futzed with the design forever but didn\u2019t want to lose interest, I wanted to see Charles Martel built. Realizing my Blender model would never be perfect, I begrudgingly called the design \u201cDone\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

To pull off printing the design’s numerous fine details, Charles Martel was going to be BIG! But I knew that going in, after all I had just purchased my shiny new Elegoo Saturn. I initially toyed with the idea of printing her in 1\/159, the same scale as my German V25 Torpedo boat<\/a> but then she\u2019d be TOO big (not for the Saturn, for my house!) I ended up re-scaling the Blender design to 1\/200 and started the final work of carving her up into printable sections. This took a couple more months.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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My first prints on the Elegoo Saturn were for the USS Tigrone<\/a> project. It had more failed prints than I care to mention, objects were having issues adhering to the build plate. I had researched chronic print failures for the Saturn online and came up with a plan for Charles Martel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I drastically changed my Chitubox print settings which totally trashed the performance gains I had seen with Tigrone. Layer exposure time was nearly doubled from 2.5 sec to 4.5, lifting speed was lowered from 80 mm\/min to 50 and bottom layer exposure time was raised to 40 seconds. With cooler fall temps in the 50s and lower 60s (I print in an unheated shed) and using Elegoo\u2019s Smoky (Dark) Grey water soluble resin, my thinking was that I needed to accept long print times and perhaps even slightly muddy details if I wanted to avoid failed prints. After just replacing my resin vat\u2019s FEP film due to damage while removing the last failure, I was pretty feed up with the Elegoo. I just wanted my prints to reliably adhere to the darn build plate\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I got my wish and then some!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Yep, print times doubled, now taking 12-15hrs on the taller prints. But OMG the reliability difference is Night and Day and I have no issues with the print quality. 12 perfect prints in a row, zero failures.

With the bulk of Charles Martel\u2019s printing done, I couldn\u2019t be happier with the Elegoo Saturn. OK, that\u2019s not 100% true. Sure, it could be faster but I\u2019ll take slow perfection over speedy failure every time. And gazing at the size and detail on the largest pieces is pure 3D printing nirvana.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Above is the first mocked up shot of my French pre-dreadnought Battleship Charles Martel in 1\/200 scale. Only the three large center hull pieces are glued.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The hull will need a ton of work before the upper deck can be attached. I feel things have gone pretty good to this point but the bulk of the work lies ahead. The Charles Martel is by far my most ambitious 3D printing project to date, resin or otherwise. She measures about two feet long and is plenty hefty.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I hope she doesn\u2019t become my Great White Whale. Time will tell.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thanks for looking, stay tuned!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Update Dec 24, 2022
Not a Hull of a lot of progress\u2026<\/h5>\n\n\n\n
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Hard to believe almost 2 months have gone by already! I haven\u2019t had a lot of time to work on this project but the main hull sections were finally glued together, the joints filled and sanded and repair work done on bits that either didn\u2019t print well, were broken while removing their print supports or broken while filling and sanding.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Once the repairs were finished I waited for a warmish day to lay down some flat black primer. The day was warm but rainy and the job was a bit rushed, snuck in between downpours and sprinkles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My fill work needs more work\u2026 Nothing like an even coat of primer to highlight rough areas that were missed. On the bright side some of these defects will be hidden by the upper works and utility boats.
I\u2019m pretty happy with my Charles Martel so far.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Going forward I\u2019ll likely concentrate on the hull this winter, I\u2019ve found new pictures of Charles Martel that make me want to redesign and reprint her flying deck and that will need to wait till springtime. At this rate I should have plenty to keep me busy till then<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Update Dec 26, 2022
Bullet Dodged<\/h5>\n\n\n\n
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Sometimes I\u2019m my own worst enemy\u2026
I shouldn\u2019t have done it, I\u2019m just too darn impulsive.
I had a marginal weather window for spray painting open up today and I took it. So of course I didn\u2019t get to make the filler\/smoothing corrections I wanted to…
Oh well, ready or not, she got her first touch of color today.

From day one I worried that the waterline pin-striping would be the death of this project (Don\u2019t laugh! it has been before! I hate them!) The bulging top edge of the armored belt is right on the lower edge of the stripe making the masking trickier than normal and normal with these stripes is plenty tricky for me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I think I just wanted to get past it, if I\u2019d totally messed it up I\u2019d care less that I didn\u2019t make the hull perfect first before doing so. Much to my relief, I pulled it off OK with only minor touch-ups required (bullet dodged).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So yeah, now I kind\u2019a wish I\u2019d done some filler repairs first\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n

PS: The unpainted turrets are just for looks!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Update Dec 30, 2022
Mock II<\/h5>\n\n\n\n
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Had time to get the first coat of deck paint down and do another mock up using the old flying deck parts I had already printed – even though I\u2019ll likely not use them on the finished model.

Still on the fence about the upper color: buff gold or light gray…
I think the buff might be harder to pull off, though I do find it aesthetically appealing and very Victorian.
Then again, light gray may go better in the room she\u2019ll end up in…<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Update Jan 26, 2023
New Flying Deck & Digital Diorama<\/h5>\n\n\n\n
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While little to no progress has been made on the physical model, I\u2019ve completed the new flying deck changes in Blender.

The largest changes were the addition of wooden decking, modifications to how the wing platforms above the port and starboard 270mm guns connect to the flying deck and a reworking of the huge air intakes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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I\u2019ve also been experimenting more and more with Blender features that have nothing to do with printing my models: materials, textures and lighting \u2013 They do let me show my Blender models in a new more attractive way and it\u2019s a lot of fun, kind of like coloring for grown nerds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Update February 19, 2023
Lower Hull Mostly Done<\/h5>\n\n\n\n
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I\u2019ve finished the bulk of the work that can be done without the new upper flying deck parts. I need to wait for warmer weather to reprint them, should be doable in a month or so.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The davits and utility craft are painted up, the deck is as done as it will ever be and I made up my mind on the upper works color. I went with buff and finally committed to a shade.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That said, the bow crane, davits, small boats and turrets are not yet secured. I\u2019m waiting to make up my mind on how I want to mount\/display the ship first. I have some brass stands but am on the fence as to weather I want to secure them to some type of wooden display base or not or just to the ship. After the display task is settled, I do have some handling repairs that need to happen. Should have plenty of time to wrap these things up before the upper works are reprinted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Update February 23, 2023
Up on a pedestal (or two)<\/h5>\n\n\n\n
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With the attachment of its spiffy brass stands, Charles Martel has passed yet another hurdle and is shown mocked up again with the old flying deck.
The stands are actually modified candlestick holders ordered from Amazon and are working great. I\u2019ve been dreading this task, terrified that after all this effort I\u2019d crack the hull while trying to drill holes into it for the stands. The holes allow screws to secure the stands into wooden blocks I had previously gorilla glued inside the hull just for this purpose. To help reduce the risk of damage, I used 4 drill bits, each one gradually increasing in diameter and all went well.

This is the first time I haven\u2019t just glued 3D printed stands onto the hull, Charles Martel is just too darn heavy for that. Plus I like the ability to easily remove them if needed and the brass just looks snazzy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Update April 12, 2023
Fire up the Saturn!<\/h5>\n\n\n\n
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Warmish weather and my schedule finally aliened and I was able to print the new flying deck around mid April. The new design got the job done in 2 sections, an improvement on the 3 of my first attempt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The printing went well but I did manage to make a problem for myself. You may have noticed there is no “off the build plate” picture of the bow section, that\u2019s because by the time I got it off, it was in about 6 pieces. I stupidly let is sit in the printer in the shed for a few days after it had finished printing. Seems to be a really bad idea. The model had to be chiseled off. I\u2019d never had such a time removing a print. Damage was done but I decided I\u2019d try and repair it before reprinting and the repairs went surprisingly well. Had I been smart I would have just removed the model from it’s supports while on the plate. I’d never had to do this and it just didn’t occur to me – next time.

Oh well, the last piece of my Charles Martel puzzle was finally in hand.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Update April 23
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With the new flying deck in hand, it was time to pull the trigger and glue down all the parts that had only been mocked up till now. I painted much of the upper works before assembly, and when all was finally, permanently, in place, I was both happy and relieved.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Update May 12, 2023
Finishing Touches, the Completed Project<\/h5>\n\n\n\n
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Finally, my least favorite part of model ship building, the rigging. A lot of guess work went into this. There are plenty of pictures of where the rigging starts up in the masts but precious few show where and how it connected to the ship. The flags were inkjet printed and easy enough, hopefully I\u2019m not crazy off on the rigging.

This project, from the design to the printing, assembly, painting and finish work, resulted in what is definitely the coolest model I\u2019ve ever created. It\u2019s amazing to think that just 10 years ago it couldn\u2019t have been done (Not by me anyway!) I truly love how inexpensive 3D printers have given us the ability to create whatever we can imagine.

While I\u2019d still like to make a display case for Charles Martel, the model is finally done.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Update May 21, 2023<\/strong>
A Case for Charles Martel<\/h5>\n\n\n\n

I had a decent stretch of time to work on the case this weekend and now finally have my Charles Martel mounted, secured and protected in her new display case. First and probably last custom case I make.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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She is now totally complete.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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